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Mass in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite in Heiligenkreuz

The Associatio Sanctus Benedictus Patronus Europae was recently in Heiligenkreuz, and  Dom Hervé Courau, O.S.B., Abbot of N.D. de Triors in France, celebrated a missa abbatis in the extraordinary form.

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8 responses to “Mass in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite in Heiligenkreuz”

  1. Beautiful, but where is the subdeacon?

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    1. Yeah, I wondered about that too. There were a few other peculiarities as well. Triors has a kind of hybrid use, apparently.

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      1. What other peculiarities?

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        1. Maybe it’s in line with the other medieval monastic rites that didn’t employ subdeacon and not a hybrid rite but a local variant approved by the Holy See…maybe…

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        2. From what I have heard the houses coming from Fontgombault and Le Barroux all use a rite that contains elements of the 1965 missal. I believe these changes were proposed by Cardinal Mayer. I don’t know how much variance if any there is between the monasteries. I know at Fontgombault and Clear Creek you would see a sub-deacon used…. I find it a bit odd that such liturgically focused orders would have such an uneven praxis. I have heard the late Abbé Quoëx, probably the greatest liturgist of the traditionalist movement, did not think very highly of these additions.

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        3. The Pater Noster was sung together by all, the per ipsum was sung out loud, the Gospel was sung toward the West (in the vernacular…) They would have used a subdeacon if they had one apparently.

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          1. But if there was no subdeacon available, why didn’t they say a missa lecta?

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